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	<title>Comments on: Send that Blackberry to Solitary Confinement</title>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
		<link>http://talkingstory.org/2007/07/send-that-blackberry-to-solitary-confinement/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blackberry is not the best Canada has to offer. A wonderful tool but what a way to suck energy out of a group, meeting, or conference.
I ask people to leave the room. I arrange for longer breaks but I ask not just for their ears but for their attention and being present.
We would not allow our children to interupt us while we are listening why do we let a little vibration make us feel that we have to respond, NOW!
I also think some people are really trying to prove they are THUMBody important but miss the most vital link of being with the people right in front of them.
That&#039;s my short rant.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blackberry is not the best Canada has to offer. A wonderful tool but what a way to suck energy out of a group, meeting, or conference.<br />
I ask people to leave the room. I arrange for longer breaks but I ask not just for their ears but for their attention and being present.<br />
We would not allow our children to interupt us while we are listening why do we let a little vibration make us feel that we have to respond, NOW!<br />
I also think some people are really trying to prove they are THUMBody important but miss the most vital link of being with the people right in front of them.<br />
That&#8217;s my short rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa Say</title>
		<link>http://talkingstory.org/2007/07/send-that-blackberry-to-solitary-confinement/comment-page-1/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha Chris, I admit that I am struggling to get to any acceptance of blackberry-in-the-presence-of-others behavior, but you know I love good dialogue and that you are challenging me to be more open-minded with this! It is what ‘talking story’ is all about :-)
I would venture to say this: We agree that both the person speaking and the one with blackberry in hand have personal responsibility with how their coming together is going to fare. Where we seem to differ is my underlying assumption that ultimately they can benefit from that coming together no matter what other variables are in place (less-than-fully-engaging presentation, mandatory attendance etc.) and if they are willing to fully go the distance. I also feel that once they have come together, they should go that distance, ‘raising the bar’ on the “more pervasive issue of the state of our communication today” you refer to. To me, pulling out your blackberry tells the other person you have run out of patience, and have already decided they are not worth that effort for you. When I think about aloha, that is extremely difficult for me to accept, especially when you have other options. For instance, why not raise your hand, and ask a question that will redirect a boring speaker?
Is there “something more” to this? I’d love to hear more views and invite others to join us in the discussion!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Chris, I admit that I am struggling to get to any acceptance of blackberry-in-the-presence-of-others behavior, but you know I love good dialogue and that you are challenging me to be more open-minded with this! It is what ‘talking story’ is all about :-)<br />
I would venture to say this: We agree that both the person speaking and the one with blackberry in hand have personal responsibility with how their coming together is going to fare. Where we seem to differ is my underlying assumption that ultimately they can benefit from that coming together no matter what other variables are in place (less-than-fully-engaging presentation, mandatory attendance etc.) and if they are willing to fully go the distance. I also feel that once they have come together, they should go that distance, ‘raising the bar’ on the “more pervasive issue of the state of our communication today” you refer to. To me, pulling out your blackberry tells the other person you have run out of patience, and have already decided they are not worth that effort for you. When I think about aloha, that is extremely difficult for me to accept, especially when you have other options. For instance, why not raise your hand, and ask a question that will redirect a boring speaker?<br />
Is there “something more” to this? I’d love to hear more views and invite others to join us in the discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bailey</title>
		<link>http://talkingstory.org/2007/07/send-that-blackberry-to-solitary-confinement/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, I see where you&#039;re coming from and yet there&#039;s something here that gives me reason for further reflection. It may very well be that I&#039;m one of those crackberry addicts who does check an incoming message or browses during &#039;boring&#039; company meetings. Perhaps its my own selfishness at play here.
Or it may be something more. It definitely does raise a question as to why the individual is sitting there in the first place if their attention is not on the speaker. Is their presence mandatory? And it raises a more pervasive issue of the state of our communication today. Not so much the one-on-one or intimate professional dialogues (I&#039;ll readily agree that if you&#039;re blackberrying here, you have a serious problem). I&#039;m thinking specifically of meetings and presentations. I&#039;d submit that we&#039;ve all been in the presence of speakers who did not bring their own sense of hospitality to the room. However, they did manage to bring their own sense of indifference to the communication, not caring (or perhaps not fully understanding) that they have an obligation to fulfill their end of the bargain. Just because you stand at the front of the room doesn&#039;t mean you get the right to full audience attention. Yet, I can also see that just because you have a seat in the audience doesn&#039;t mean you get the right to be an unattentive participant.
Like I said, I know where you&#039;re coming from...it just feels like there are several layers of this topic that we could probably peel away for a long time :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I see where you&#8217;re coming from and yet there&#8217;s something here that gives me reason for further reflection. It may very well be that I&#8217;m one of those crackberry addicts who does check an incoming message or browses during &#8216;boring&#8217; company meetings. Perhaps its my own selfishness at play here.<br />
Or it may be something more. It definitely does raise a question as to why the individual is sitting there in the first place if their attention is not on the speaker. Is their presence mandatory? And it raises a more pervasive issue of the state of our communication today. Not so much the one-on-one or intimate professional dialogues (I&#8217;ll readily agree that if you&#8217;re blackberrying here, you have a serious problem). I&#8217;m thinking specifically of meetings and presentations. I&#8217;d submit that we&#8217;ve all been in the presence of speakers who did not bring their own sense of hospitality to the room. However, they did manage to bring their own sense of indifference to the communication, not caring (or perhaps not fully understanding) that they have an obligation to fulfill their end of the bargain. Just because you stand at the front of the room doesn&#8217;t mean you get the right to full audience attention. Yet, I can also see that just because you have a seat in the audience doesn&#8217;t mean you get the right to be an unattentive participant.<br />
Like I said, I know where you&#8217;re coming from&#8230;it just feels like there are several layers of this topic that we could probably peel away for a long time :)</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa Say</title>
		<link>http://talkingstory.org/2007/07/send-that-blackberry-to-solitary-confinement/comment-page-1/#comment-659</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris I agree that presenters hold responsibility for engaging an audience well, speaking in a way that commands their attention and treating their opportunity to do so as a gift. We should prepare well, and we should prepare contingencies so we can redirect when we see we are not effectively reaching our audience. However, I still feel that a bad presentation is never an excuse to blackberry. To answer your question, I much prefer that they walk out of the room, for if they need that blackberry they are not really with me and their peers in the audience anyway. As a presenter, I don’t need blackberry behavior to tell me when I am not connecting with an audience; there are tons of other cues in their body language.
What I saw in that room in this particular instance was bad habit behavior that has unfortunately become acceptable in far too many so-called ‘professional’ organizations when it is not. I simply do not buy the ‘need’ argument. If people cannot keep their blackberry behavior reserved for the break times given at conferences, they have bigger productivity problems in addition to the professional deficits in their behavior, thus I say leave the room; they are not yet ready for my message anyway.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris I agree that presenters hold responsibility for engaging an audience well, speaking in a way that commands their attention and treating their opportunity to do so as a gift. We should prepare well, and we should prepare contingencies so we can redirect when we see we are not effectively reaching our audience. However, I still feel that a bad presentation is never an excuse to blackberry. To answer your question, I much prefer that they walk out of the room, for if they need that blackberry they are not really with me and their peers in the audience anyway. As a presenter, I don’t need blackberry behavior to tell me when I am not connecting with an audience; there are tons of other cues in their body language.<br />
What I saw in that room in this particular instance was bad habit behavior that has unfortunately become acceptable in far too many so-called ‘professional’ organizations when it is not. I simply do not buy the ‘need’ argument. If people cannot keep their blackberry behavior reserved for the break times given at conferences, they have bigger productivity problems in addition to the professional deficits in their behavior, thus I say leave the room; they are not yet ready for my message anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, Rosa...I understand where you&#039;re coming from. But, here&#039;s a question: is it more insulting to the presenter to stay in your seat and blackberry OR get up and walk out? As a presenter, I&#039;d rather they blackberry during a session than exit. With the former, I still have a chance of engaging them. If they leave, that opportunity is lost.
If half the room is blackberrying during a session, that&#039;s good feedback. That means I better find a way to engage these folks quick. We presenters do hold some of the burden of successful communication.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Rosa&#8230;I understand where you&#8217;re coming from. But, here&#8217;s a question: is it more insulting to the presenter to stay in your seat and blackberry OR get up and walk out? As a presenter, I&#8217;d rather they blackberry during a session than exit. With the former, I still have a chance of engaging them. If they leave, that opportunity is lost.<br />
If half the room is blackberrying during a session, that&#8217;s good feedback. That means I better find a way to engage these folks quick. We presenters do hold some of the burden of successful communication.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa Say</title>
		<link>http://talkingstory.org/2007/07/send-that-blackberry-to-solitary-confinement/comment-page-1/#comment-657</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa Say</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have much more patience than I have Rich!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have much more patience than I have Rich!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich G.</title>
		<link>http://talkingstory.org/2007/07/send-that-blackberry-to-solitary-confinement/comment-page-1/#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those same people wouldn&#039;t appreciate it at all if they were the speaker and their audience was chatting amongst themselves while they were speaking.
If I&#039;m talking to someone who starts with the texting I ask them to get back to me when I&#039;m not bothering them and I apologize for interrupting them. This turns out to be especially effective if they work for me lol.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those same people wouldn&#8217;t appreciate it at all if they were the speaker and their audience was chatting amongst themselves while they were speaking.<br />
If I&#8217;m talking to someone who starts with the texting I ask them to get back to me when I&#8217;m not bothering them and I apologize for interrupting them. This turns out to be especially effective if they work for me lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanna Young</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanna Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Rosa.
I almost wish someone had tried using their&#039;s when you were speaking - because they would have learned their lessons the hard way... the rest of the audience too.
Joanna
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Rosa.<br />
I almost wish someone had tried using their&#8217;s when you were speaking &#8211; because they would have learned their lessons the hard way&#8230; the rest of the audience too.<br />
Joanna</p>
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		<title>By: John Richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Richardson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank You Rosa! This is something that truly infuriates me, especially as an audience member. Turn it off or take it outside!
John
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank You Rosa! This is something that truly infuriates me, especially as an audience member. Turn it off or take it outside!<br />
John</p>
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